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On the article High School Postseason HQ: Oak Forest Advances to Boys Tennis State Finals
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On the article High School Postseason HQ: Oak Forest Advances to Boys Tennis State Finals
Joe Vince
10:54 am on Sunday, May 19, 2013
@John Zale:
Thanks! IHSA usually highlights those changes in red on its site, but it didn't with this one. I've made the change.
Joe Vince
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On the article No Love Lost in Translation Between Chris Medina, Norwegian Fans
Joe Vince
11:03 am on Friday, May 17, 2013
@OF Donna:
You're correct! Send me your contact info at joev@patch.com, so I can get that tote bag to you.
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On the article Writing's on the Window: Sam & Jake's Closes Sunday
Joe Vince
4:11 pm on Tuesday, May 14, 2013
@Former Trustee:
The building's owner is Tom Hynes of Elevated Enterprises LLC based in Worth. I think I know where you're going, but he's not related to the former Cook County assessor of the same name, which would lead to the Tinley and Orland relationships. Or are you alluding to a different connection?
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On the article Writing's on the Window: Sam & Jake's Closes Sunday
Joe Vince
3:13 pm on Tuesday, May 14, 2013
@Jennifer Musser:
The quick answer is that the owners and the building's new owner couldn't come to terms on a new lease. I'll be going into a little more in another article, but here's what I have so far after speaking with the Leos on Sunday:
http://tinleypark.patch.com/articles/sam-jake-auction-off-shop-may-15
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On the article Writing's on the Window: Sam & Jake's Closes Sunday
Joe Vince
6:02 pm on Sunday, May 12, 2013
ReplyRE: El Coco Mio, which is the Caribbean restaurant going in next to Sam & Jake's:
I asked if plans had fallen through with the new restaurant, and I was told that it's still a go, with plans to open in July. No explanation as to why the sign is down in the window.
RE: The lease renewal situation:
I was out at Sam & Jake's today (Sunday) and spoke with the Leos about the situation. I'll map it out in a later article. Also, the Leos will not be opening at a new location. This is the end of Sam & Jake's for the foreseeable future.
I spent a bit of the afternoon at the ice cream parlor on the last day, talking to customers who were coming in to say goodbye. Very touching, bittersweet scene. I'll be posting the story tomorrow. Still need to speak with the new owner of the building.
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On the article 'Sounds Like Tinley Being Bombed': Residents Speak Up on Warfare Drills
Joe Vince
2:05 pm on Sunday, April 28, 2013
Reply@Beckwith; @K Roll; @Candace J.:
The idea that the military has never staged urban warfare exercises in U.S. cities or that it's a recent development is incorrect. These types of drills—described as "counter-terrorism" exercises—have been going on since at least 1993, according to a 1997 Washington Post article. In fact, the story says there was a drill in a Chicago suburb in 1995 (after a quick search, I believe Lemont was the city).
http://articles.latimes.com/1997-04-27/news/mn-52974_1_u-s-army-special-operations-command
This comes back to what I wrote up-thread: Why does this discussion need to be couched in a conspiratorial context, like it's the plot of a summer action movie? No one mentions the legal overturning and transformation of the laws that had set up clear definitions of when and how the armed forces can be used domestically. No one talks about the ways the National Guard has been used in civil unrest incidents since the beginning of the Cold War and how those actions might inform policy when it comes to dealing with Occupy protests. These are just some of the topics that are at the heart of people's concerns but that are getting short shrift, in my opinion. In this case, what's happening in front of the curtain is much more important than the shadow-chasing happening behind it.
This is more soapboxing than I'm comfortable with, but there's a serious discussion here that should be encouraged.
Joe Vince
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On the article 'Sounds Like Tinley Being Bombed': Residents Speak Up on Warfare Drills
Joe Vince
3:09 am on Sunday, April 28, 2013
Reply@Candace J.:
Yes, that would be funny peculiar if it were true. What comments disappeared? I haven't deleted any comments from this thread. Nor has this story been "rerun" (although giving a different run date to a story that already been published does not erase comments). Readers, however, can delete their own comments.
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On the article 'Sounds Like Tinley Being Bombed': Residents Speak Up on Warfare Drills
Joe Vince
10:44 pm on Thursday, April 25, 2013
@Michael M.:
I'm no expert in this area (so please point out my errors), but the U.S. has a complicated history with the military operating domestically. Citizens dislike that concept, but states essentially have had units of the armed forces at their disposal for the past century in the Army National Guard. People usually see the Guard mobilized for disaster relief for hurricanes or earthquakes. Governors also can use their Guards to keep order, the Kent State shootings being a tragic example of that.
In certain cases, the president can federalize a state's Guard in order to respond to a national emergency or to enforce the law. In the '50s and '60s, two presidents sent in state Guards—in opposition to those states' governors—to protect black students and carry out school desegregation. And the line seems to have blurred recently as to when a president can override a governor's authority and take command of a state's Guard. Originally, the governor had to OK it in most cases for that to happen.
Serious discussions on the military's role in a post-9/11 world is merited. But I don't understand the need to ascribe shadowy, conspiratorial reasons to training exercises like this when challenging issues are out in the bright—and legal—light of day. Imagine this topic as a glacier. Concerns target theoretical threats that might lurk under the water line, missing the clear danger of the tip of the iceberg dead ahead.
Joe Vince
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On the article 'Sounds Like Tinley Being Bombed': Residents Speak Up on Warfare Drills
Joe Vince
10:04 am on Thursday, April 25, 2013
@steve han:
I'm going to ask if the village was compensated (past reimbursing for overtime pay for any village employees needed or things like that), but I think you might be right.
Joe Vince
Tinley Par-Oak Forest
Joe Vince
2:01 pm on Sunday, May 19, 2013
@rich simonsis:
How much of that is in Oak Forest High School's control since this is part of the regional tournament? Plus, this was the second game, and even though, OF and TP were the top seeds, that means the high school is assuming they're both going to make it to that game. The first game was Tuesday, and unless an exception was made, the winners would have to play again with less than two days rest, which isn't the case in any of the regionals. And while it was unfortunate that Tinley had its prom on the same night, I don't there would've been anything honorable or sportsmanlike with Oak Forest scheduling the game—if it was within its control—on Saturday, which was that school's prom night. Please tell me if I'm missing anything or am in error about any of this.
If anything, I think Tinley Park's girls soccer team and Andrew's baseball team are the victims of even worse scheduling this week. Those teams each have games on their graduation days. Why should families have to be put in that situation? And what sort of message is that sending?
Joe Vince
Tinley Park-Oak Forest Editor