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Biden vs. Ryan in VP Debate: Did They Answer Your Questions on the Big Issues? (Live Chat)

Patch editors held a live online chat during Thursday's debate, but that doesn't mean the discussion is over. Who helped his running mate the most? Read last night's chat transcript and tell us what you thought of the debate.

 

Patch and the Bremen Township Republican Organization held a vice presidential debate viewing party Thursday, Oct. 11, at Chicago Gaelic Park in Oak Forest, and readers got a chance to share their thoughts and opinions on the event.

Did you miss our live coverage of the debate? Catch up with it by reading the transcript of the live chat and tell us how you thought the debate went in the comments section:

  • What did you think of Vice President Joe Biden's constant laughing and smiling during GOP candidate Paul Ryan's answers?
  • Did Ryan finally provide enough details for his and presidential candidate Mitt Romney's financial plan, which has been criticized as being vague?
  • Or did you skip the debate because ultimately, voters choose a president, not a vice president? 

The televised debate might be over, but now the real discussion between voters begins.

 

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Gloria Palm

8:33 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

I would like to slap the smile off of Biden. The guy doesn't even have respect to fully listen when someone is talking. Why did unemployment go down...because public aid went up. You get free phones. LOL. Another thing, just not too long ago obama stated that he would not bail out ANY company, well Biden is raving about how obama bailed out the automobile industry. He is just like obama, a BIG LIAR. You go Ryan, at least you are not ignorant like them. How did that guy even make it in.

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BUTCH

11:43 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

if they didn't lie he would only smile when being photographed, u and the wingnuts on FOX have lost your swag and are threatening to get violent OH MY!

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Baba Wawa

5:56 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

"just not too long ago obama stated that he would not bail out ANY company,"

He did? When? TARP was under Bush. He bailed out AIG, Lehman Brothers, the auto industry, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, CitiGroup. Obama saved Detroit, unlike Myth Rmoney who wanted it to go bankrupt. GM is #1. The loan is paid. Thousands of jobs were saved.

A convenient bailout list, just from Google'ing "Bush bailouts list." It's not that hard, Gloria.
http://www.propublica.org/special/government-bailouts
http://projects.propublica.org/bailout/main/timeline

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WILLIAM CONNER

9:35 am on Saturday, October 13, 2012

I sat and watched the whole debate. After watching mister Arogant, I was throughly disturbed by his demeanor. Anyone who liked the way he presented himself, is living in the 20th century. This is the 21st century and HELLO. Ryan did try to speak on issues and was interrupted many times with out stating where the two canidates stood on the issues. Once again people point fingers but never listen. The call it the Democratic Party!

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The Care Bear Here

7:23 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

wow how violent , this morning Romney son said "he wanted to Punch president Obama". This violent trend with republicans is very scary. no wander we go to war when Republicans are in office.

Truly this is not good for republicans to be violent Bully's

The Guru

9:04 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

So far Biden has been nothing but disrespectful. Interrupting, smirking, and huffing.

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BUTCH

8:10 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

unlike the repulsive smug superior head of the family values party who defends legitimate rape, Sharia law as long as it is Christian or from Planet Kolub, too bad the polite POTUS has not learned a thing about these treasonous creatures who follow the constitution of the KOCH BROS-ALEC and GROVER NORDQUIST and the ! % and not the one of our founding fathers,

Chronicles of Bob

9:13 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

No, he speaks bluntly with facts and truths.... HOW MANY TIMES does he have to say its the afghans responsibility to protect their own country after 12 years.... yet all ryan says is we pulling out soilders...

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Tired of the B.S.

1:26 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

So after 12 years you must take responsibility for yourself.
Sounds like a great plan!
Let's try it with welfare.

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Tinley Park Mom

7:50 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Chronicles of Bob I agree Biden was explaining the FACTS and ryan just rambled his talking point (it wasn't in his script)ryan was AWFUL.

Biden won HANDS Down and so will the AMERICAN People

Obama/Biden 2012 4 more Years!

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Chronicles of Bob

9:00 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Ca'mon TBS... Not even close... Not even on the same planet to compare the two... The majority of the people in this country are done with war... Yet you have an issue with this...
The foriegn policy portion, especially on Afgan, were ryans weakest moments... And the scariest, if you actually paid attention... Any logical person saw this... In my heart TBS, I know you have common sense.. I've seen it...

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Tired of the B.S.

10:42 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Cob, first, I want the war to end. Never said otherwise. On a personal note, I am extremely glad that my nephew is home from Afghanistan. Some of the stuff he talks about is the definition of the horrors of war.
As far as the welfare comment, I do think that there should be some form of assistance for the people that really need it. I also think that there are far too many people cheating the system. There was a time when people were embarrassed to be receiving government assistance, now some get that assistance from cradle to grave.

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Chronicles of Bob

10:56 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Tbs... i totally agree... tons of waste... i like many republican movements... i want clean up... but not at the exp of cutting the deserving. If cheaters have to exist to ensure a deserving family gets the help they need i am fine with it...
if romney and ryan were more direct id listen.
They have been asked repeatley about certain things and fail to answer... i dont trust them... i just felt they could have had a better candidate...
Be honest.... i actually thought biden/ ryan would have made a goid ticket....

Gloria Palm

9:26 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

Biden is lying soooo much it is unbelievable. Hasn't the past 4 years showed us we are going no where fast. Biden is ignorant. I'm glad that Ryan is continuing to talk his turn. Biden has to be rude because he knows that we all know he is lying. Biden and Obama are all talk and no action.

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Gloria Palm

9:33 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

I will tell my kids that things are going to be o.k. when Obama and Biden are out of office. That is when it will be o.k.

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The Guru

9:58 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

MSNBC and CNN are not flipping out again, so we can at least say that the debate went better than the Obama & Romney debate for the democrats.

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Bob Laird

10:03 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

I think I'll run for prez. Get out of the middle east, they've been killing each other for thousands of years, do we really think WE can stop it cuz we're the U.S.A. and we have lots of young men to throw away? Let's give N. Korea and Iran a couple of really cool new nukes so they don't have to build their own but splain to them that if they use it we'll turn their pissant sod into a carbon cake. Welfare's ok if you're willing to get off your tush and earn it until you get a job. (community service). Biden brought up the 47% a lot. Truth sucks, don't it? Knucklehead told the truth, but in his position he should have known better. There will never be peace in the middle east, it's their nature to fight and hate, we need to get OUT.

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Alan Perkaus

11:45 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

Thanks for the invite tonight Ben! I dont think there are any winners or losers after watching the debate tonight.The VP acted a bit senile with his smirks and interruptions and ryan Spun one question then didn't really answer another. I am still looking for some sign of leadership in the 4 people running for the most important positions in our Nation.They must not forget that the rest of the world is also watching and wonder Just what the hell is going on in America.
I did appreciate the chance to listen to a few of the local candidates and talk with one for a moment.that moment got my vote. Sometimes all it takes is the right question and answer.

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Tired of the B.S.

1:36 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

I should have asked, what was the right question and answer?

mom

6:42 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Biden~ RUDE RUDE RUDE RUDE. UNPRESIDENTIAL~
MEDIATOR PERSON~STUPID~ONE SIDED
PAUL RYAN~POLITE~HANDSOM~PRSEIDENTIAL

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Baba Wawa

7:20 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

MOM~STUPID, LOW INFORMATION VOTER.
REPUBLICANS~IDIOTS AND ARGUING WITH THEM IS A WASTE OF TIME.
GLORIA~STUPID, LOW INFORMATION VOTER. "Free" phones started in the 1990s.

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Tinley Park Mom

8:02 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

mom
biden rude?
mediator stupid?
ryan presidentional....lol.............
We weren't watching the same debate

ryan/romney care ONLY about tax cuts for the Super Rich..If the reason for the Bush Tax Cuts was for the "job creators to create jobs" what happen to THAT stimulis money? Where are thise JOBS? gop has OBSTRUCTED EVERY job bill that has been presented. They even Failed to pass a job's bill for Veteran's, cutting their benefits as well. yet romney tries stands on the Body of our dead Soliders to look a little taller..It's not working. the gop primary AND campaign have been an EMBARRASSMENT. Remember the gop signed a Contract with Norquist NOT to raise (reinstate taxes for the RICH.) So it's ok for our Veterans and Middle Class to pick up the bill? NOT!

Obama/Biden 2012

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BUTCH

11:39 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

sorry mom the game ended and the score is JOE being a heart beat way from the top job 70
Poor LYIN still trying to fill in the details 3 (a field goal on Libya)

Dianna

7:25 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

What stood out to me was how nervous both men were. Ryan couldn't stop drinking and Biden couldn't stop ridiculing. My guess is no minds were changed. I would have liked to hear more about ObamaCare. My husband just got out of Good Samaritan Hospital and the staff were disconsolate because the hospital is preparing to lay off about 150 people. I can't remember another campaign in my lifetime that was so crucial.

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BUTCH

11:32 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

The hospitals, pharmaceuticals and health care debate should have been over when JOHN McCain said" he wants the AMERICAN PEOPLE TO HAVE THE SAME HEALTH CARE AS CONGRESS" and then all the 2 dozen wing nut doctors went on C SPAN and were crying about hard it was to live on 5 million a year with exp insurance etc which is not all the fault of TORT but maybe a bit on heir lifestyle and especially their incompetence must be a small factor.
Anyway OBAMA caved in he too had been in favor of SINGLE PAYER and let the criminals LIKE BILLY TAUZIN (a tpart-gop pol) one of the all time top corrupt pol's write the ACA who left congress to be the top lobbyist for the pharmaceuticals and JOE the senator of TEL-AVIV LIEBERMAN whose wife was a INSURANCE LOBBYIST, it was a good start and will get better in the second term. he has learned he can no longer be polite to ;liars and looters

Stones

7:50 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

I thought I would share this statement received in an email from a friend who is completely in disagreement with me about this particular election. And amazingly, I am 100% in agreement with him. His idea would certainly make the debates more interesting. His comments are below:

Against my better judgement, I watched the VP debates tonight. Yes, of course, I was drinking, how do you put yourself through this without fortification ?

My conclusion: even without vodka, I could have whipped both of those losers in the debate without so much as a minutes preparation. Why? Because they never addressed the concerns and issues of the American people.

So: in the future, I propose that debates have 1 republican, 1 democrat and 1 representative of the American citizen who can address the issues without being afraid of the political and political correct fallout. Someone who speaks the truth that is heard in the marketplace, the church, the community and the local tavern...the places where citizens congregate.

Will we ever see the day when the common citizenry is heard and considered? No, I doubt it. Unfortunately, I think that our opinions will only be heard through the megaphones of protest and the gun barrels of revolution.

God bless us our history of action against oppression and our undeniable quest for freedom.


GOD BLESS AMERICA !

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Gloria Palm

7:50 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Baba you must like the word stupid. For your info Baba the free phones didn't start in the 1990's. Why is unemployment low? BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE WENT TO PUBLIC AID. Obama made it easier on them to get it. Democrats just proved one more time last night what a bunch of babies they are and very ignorant too. Hey Mom, according to Baba we are stupid. Just goes to show you who the misinformed person is BABA WAWA. Since when does a V.P. smirk and laugh over important issues. It was caught on camera and I posted it on my page a couple of days ago how a person in a democrat ward voted TWICE and they let him. 4 years ago there were dead people voting. They need to start asking for ID's because as usual the Democrats are up to their rotten plan and that is cheating. Since obamacare has been talked about EVERYONE S insurance went up. He needs money from somewhere to pay for it. Let him take it out of his own pocket because part of obamacare is unconstitutional. A PROVEN FACT BABA. You can not make a catholic hospital perform an abortion. Obama doesn't even know the constitution. If by some chance Obama does get in, I hope that every person that voted for him suffers under what he has in store for America. He doesn't give 2 sh?ts about America. People that actually liked Biden said how rude he was. Oh and mom the mediator was the same mediator that showed up at Obama's wedding. She IS one sided. She is for the democrats. She did a lousy job.

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David

10:43 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

The "free phones" thing started in the 1980s, under Reagan. Of course you didn't get free phones then, but you got drastically reduced or free telephone service for your home landlines.

These days, nobody really wants landlines anymore, so the program has shifted into providing cell phone service. Yes, you can get a free or reduced cost phone. No, it was not Obama that implemented this program.

Check this link for more unbiased information:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

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Baba Wawa

12:03 am on Saturday, October 13, 2012

Yes, Gloria. You and Mom are stupid. Along with all the Republicans.

Whine, whine, whine how Biden smirked and laughed. It was justifiable since he was dealing with Eddie Munster. And Myth Rmoney didn't interrupt and walk all over Jim Leher?

Rotten plan and cheating? Repugnantcans hold the patent on that, Gloria.

My health insurance hasn't gone up. In face, I know have no limits on lifetime coverage, thanks to the Affordable Care Act. Obamacare isn't unconstitutional. Where were you in June when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld it -- thanks to John Roberts.

Who says Obama wants to make Catholic hospitals perform abortions?! My God! You ARE insane.

Martha Raddatz showed up at Obama's wedding? My God! You ARE insane. You must've gotten that from Fox. Did she show up at his wedding as a mediator? Again, you got it wrong from Faux News. Her now EX-HUSBAND from that *1991* wedding knew Obama. She did a terrific job. She's a well respected journalist. Extensive foreign policy experience. Traveled to Iraq over a dozen times and to Afghanistan and Pakistan more times than she can recall.

Again, you really are incredibly entertaining with your utter and total nonsense.

Steve

7:53 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Joe Bidden is the "Bully" that all the schools are attempting to get rid of, he followed in his fathers footsteps and is the second poorest in Washington. Some of the people that comment need to focus on the real problems. Jobs and Energy.

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Stones

8:04 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Gloria, Just a few facts for you:

1. The free phone program started in 1984 under President Reagan.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

2. ObamaCare is Constitutional, at least according the the United States Supreme Court, but why quibble?

3. ObamaCare is not responsible for premiums rising, that seems to happen every year. In fact, in my office they are going down with no changes in coverage.

4. Voter fraud is miniscule and has been proven to be time and again. I'm sure there are some cases but certainly not enough to impact a presidential election.

5. President Obama knows the Constitution very well, hence his position at the University of Chicago.

6. The moderator did a fine job. She was fair to both participants and kept the debate on track.

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Tinley Park Mom

11:48 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Stones to Gloria Just a few facts..

GREAT Post ! your name suits you.

OBAMA/Biden 2012

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The Care Bear Here

7:30 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Thank you i couldnt have said it better.

people would rather blame President Obama for everthing thing that has happened or taken place in the last 80 years. Than to accept the truth

Chronicles of Bob

8:57 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Wow Gloria, you were wrong like 7 times... He never smirked over the issues... Stop sounding like Hannity...
He laughed because Ryan repeated himself like a drone. He always smiles and smirks... It's what he does...
Ryan basically told you what would happen with taxes, and the war efforts... and it seems many didn't listen.
How many times can Biden and the moderator ask if home owners, and child tax creits and deductions such as these will be cut and Ryan never answer... How can a logical person not see why he didn't answer...
How many time can Biden explain why a date was give in Afgan, why the troop draw down and on and on and on,.... And Ryan come back with the same robotic answer...

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BUTCH

11:15 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

JOE IS NO ORDINARY JOE he only grins in debates when the other guy is LYING count the grins

Ernest Neugebauer

9:31 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Biden is a bumbling idiot. Rude, condescending, unprofessional. However, Ryan showed great patience, and cool. He was clear and decisive. The only time he did not make himself understood was when Biden was interrupting and rude.

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voklst

9:43 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

1stly Only the mediator asked her own questions. My questions never came up.
Ryan was "on it" do we want to give exact
Dates and GPS readings to aliens interested
In when our troops are 'pulling-out' I remember watching the reel on Saigon and
People left behind. Obama & Biden were and have been VAGUE before their election.
During their term they are still VAGUE if not for that they are absent not in presence but in every other fashion.
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voklst

9:44 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Part 2 of 2
EASY to say ' this was recommended to us by these people, those people told us this'
The paperwork and communication say different. Buck-Passing. HARD to take
Take responsibility AND DO SOMETHING
ABOUT IT! Ryan should be running for President. I will vote Yes on that ticket.
Very professipnal, well spoken, a good listener-thinks befores he speaks. Very articulate. Well informed.
My -friend- over there biden. Discurteous
Belligerent, sitting on eggshells... Too bad
Because on some points he had game.
On others he may well have stated,
-you're mom wears combat boots-
Ignorant on the te-ta-te and code of ethics
When debating/conversing. He used to asking questions, not answering. He has not been held accountable for years.
It shows, he's an order giver.
The whole grinning and smiling issue.
I'm sure he thinks he was putting down Mr.
Ryan by asserting himself. What he did do is tell me two things. 1) he sucks at public
Debate/speaking. & 2) he may have some deep-seeded mental issues.
Nothing Mr. Ryan said was funny, comical,
Or laughable whilst the huge grin was
Planted on ' my friend ' bidens face.
I am so sorry he is 1) in office, 2) drawing funds on my hard earned work, 3) has a golden parachute.
I lost my house no one bailed me out...
Guess that only applies for certain people.
Apparantly not me. I am still unemployed
And enjoying My Right to Vote.

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BUTCH

11:13 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

The problem with the debates they are anything but,I have had a lot of income losses and a few gains over the years but a loss of a home is???!!??
If you think AYN RYAN is a professional ? LIAR-CLEVER silver spoon grifter who was helped by the system he is trying to obliterate on behalf of the 1% who have a insatiable appetite for power.
I think he is among the top members of CONGRESS who should be TRIED for TREASON who swore allegiance is to a unindicted lobbyist not the constitution GROVER NORQUIST.
We need a debate that covers the Wall street banksters and the creative ingenious deregulation past present and future on the LOOTING and or PRIVATIZING SSA and the TRANSPORATATION trust funds and what happens when WARS and PART D are put on the credit card and then comes the bill and the globalization and all this stuff that usually puts people to sleep until they lose their job and or home like you I think Joe made sense on the exact date of getting the hell out of the Hindu Kush let them kill each other besides our 49 nation coalition have had it, and finally the difference between LYIN & Palin LIPSTICK!

Joan Doman

10:11 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

After reading many of the Republican comments, I find one theme running through all the comments. That is, they feel Obama and Biden are the liars. Don't Republicans ever check their facts?

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Tinley Park Mom

11:51 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Joan republicans apparently DON'T check the Facts otherwise; they would NOT vote for ryan/romney...

OBAMA/Biden 2012

Nanette

10:15 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Stones-1 question what insurance do u have that has lowered your premiums? I just got notification that my companies premium ( for 2families) is going up over$700/month. If any one out there doeznt believe obamacare is going to cause premiums to rise you are clueless.

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Stones

10:41 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

I'm not clueless. I work for a small firm and was told lat week that our Blue Cross-Blue Shield premiums our going down this year.

Your history will show premiums have been going up for years and that had nothing to do with ObamaCare. The two main factors are the cost of healthcare and greedy insurance companies.

As far as cost, do you have any idea of what it costs to build and equip a hospital? Let alone, the ovehead expense and salaries, etc.

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Chronicles of Bob

10:45 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Nanette... lets assume what you are saying is true.... then mathematically the rep voucher system absolutely cant work...

BUTCH

10:26 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Uncle Joe has had that grin on his Gaelic face since he was a boy in Scranton and always does a bang up up job, Joe also made the American people wiser thanks to LYIN's opening the door and telling the fairy tale of IRAN and then justifying another decade of looting the EMPIRE for the 1% it will not stop the ZIONIST and now RED ARMY interference of American policy by the ZIONIST criminal enterprise of NETANYAHOOO nor the ugh REAL COMMIES (not the TPARTY version of Socialists threatening the profits of the Pharmaceuticals and INSURANCE lobby) .

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BUTCH

10:44 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Now that we can all get a handle on OBAMA CARE which will no longer be issue in any election unless the Commies are in the WH then we will be talking about murdering first born girls and other RYAN-AKIN ways women can defend themselves against thugs but meanwhile where is the outrage about the RED ARMY FLAG flying over BAINPORT (FREEPORT) here in the LAND of LINCOLN wake up saps don't get pulled into the disinfo and know nothing BS.
, LYIN sounded like a DEM being tooo polite and acting was a deer in the head lights when uncle Joe was telling us about Ryans request stimulus money for growth but he was FACING MILLIONS of people not VILLAGE IDIOTS in FLA and wherever the TPARTY gathers..

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BUTCH

11:47 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

BUT what would BLACKWATER and kbr HELLIBURTON DO GO ON UNEMPLOYMENT?

Chronicles of Bob

10:48 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Vokist... agree you have your vote... but we clearly did not watch the same debate... i dont know how more blunt and direct biden could have been...

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Tinley Park Mom

11:53 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

I'm with you Bob!

OBAMA/Biden 2012

Sarah

11:04 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Ryan- a true gentleman, very sharp, prepared, and armed with many solutions for the future- hands down WINNER!

Biden- rude, arrogant, smug, liar, embarrassing as a Vice President , obviously has new dentures that he wanted to show off- Pathetic!!!

Romney/ Ryan 2012......

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BUTCH

7:32 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

You would vote for Akins if he were twit's running mate he was LYIN'S intellectual equal they are cosponsors on the TPARTY DEMENTED views on women's issues and share their SHIRIA law views of religion one a JESUS PRODY FREAK the other whose boss is a partner of murdering death squads who murder Catholic Archbishops and nuns.
It is Impossible not to make these liars look bad despite the media staying clear of their stupidity and controversy for economic reason.
It is up to uncle JOE and real Americans to laugh and grin at this laughable very sharp TPARTY math whiz who would not pass BIG BIRDS arithmetic class with or without a crayon.

BUTCH

11:49 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

TIRED BS he said"let DETROIT GO BANKRUPT"

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Tired of the B.S.

1:12 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

i HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, BUT, THANKS
i WROTE THIS ALL IN CAPS SO YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND

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Billable Hours

2:22 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

TIRED BS = Tired of the BS (hint: you)
He=governor Romney
Said = Adjective, Used in legal language or humorously to refer to someone or something already mentioned or named
"LET DETROIT GO BANKRUPT"=General Motors

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Tired of the B.S.

2:41 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

BH,
The reason that I had no idea what BUTCH was talking about was because there has been no mention of Detroit going bankrupt in this thread.

Your post = Troll (hint: you)

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John Paul

8:00 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

GM did go bankrupt. And guess what? It still exists and we are not riding horses. The difference between what Romney called for and what Obama did is that Romney was against using tax money to bail out GM. Obama wasn't even trying to bail out GM, he was trying to bail out the UAW.

Gloria Palm

2:24 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

Health Insurance did go up because of obamacare. Doctors are NOT voting for obama because of this.
STONES What planet do you live on? Obamacare wants Catholic hospitals to perform abortions. Right there that is unconstitutional. That is interfering with Religion. Against the constitution. BTW it was thrown out. WHY because it is unconstitutional. Please get your facts straight. Now if this so called president did go to college WHY DIDN'T HE KNOW THAT? I think most of you truly need to read information about both candidates before you vote. I think it is very funny that some of you are trying to defend Biden by his laughing and smirking and all of you that have made a comment about it said "That is how he is, that's what he does". You're all lying because there are people that actually like Biden that made comments about his smirking and laughing and they did not like it or see anything funny. They said that is not him. These people know him personally. Do you guys. Everyone is talking about how ignorant and rude Biden was. SO NOW I CAN SAY THAT YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT AND STOP LYING JUST LIKE BIDEN DID.
I noticed Obama doesn't say we need change anymore like 4 years ago, I wonder why? Because he brought nothing but bad change and like what one person said PLEASE DON'T TELL OBAMA WHAT COMES AFTER A TRILLION DOLLARS. He has probably put us around 35-40% more dept than the past 44 presidents have. Wake up people.

Romney/ Ryan 2012

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Stones

3:17 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

Gloria, ObamaCare is not forcing Catholic hospitals to perform abortions. There was a clause that included contraceptives in insurance coverage (a big mistake by the President). The Catholic hospitals and other orginizations rightfully fought it and it was changed by the Administration not the Supreme Court. Which means the Constitutionality of it was neve ruled upon, but it likely would have been tossed.

"so called president"? So he wasn't elected? Where were you in 2008? Asylum doesn't have TV's?

I do pay attention to facts before I decide whom to vote for. Unlike you, who just regurgitates whatever anti-Obama garbage shows up in you email or what you hear on your favorite TV news shows. You're screeching is a clear indication of that which is pushing voters like me into another direction, seeing that I voted for John McCain in 2008 even though he had a cartoon character for a running mate.

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Chronicles of Bob

3:19 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

Sorry wrong.... but keep trying

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BUTCH

3:43 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

i once shook SMIRKIN or SMILING Joe when he was commuting to Del from DC I have seen him in charge of the Judiciary Cmte when he was in the Senate he sure is the same ole Joe, I never met Lyin but know he is the same grifter ungrateful lout who signed the GROVER NORDQUIST treasonous pledge TO DO NOTHING along with the Chief Lobbyist of RED China and other TRAITORS to do nothing to help the POTUS and American people which LYIN and all of the scum kept

Kate Duff

3:08 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

Well, I just checked my healthcare premiums over the past 9 years. Same employer, same healthcare plan, same level of coverage.

In 2004, my monthly premium was 1.7% of my monthly gross salary.
2005: 2.0%
2006: 2.9%
2007: 3.1%
2008: 3.2%
2009: 3.2%
2010: 3.4%
2011: 3.6%
2012: 3.6%

I'm pretty sure Obamacare hasn't been around that long...

In fact, the steepest annual increases occurred in 2006 and 2005. Now, who was in charge then? Someone remind me...

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Dianna

8:22 am on Saturday, October 13, 2012

I'm happy for you Kate. It's not that way for me. But what I appreciate is your disregarding "talking points" and discussing your personal experience. We are on opposite sides of this issue, that doesn't make either of us "bad" does it? When my husband was in Advocate Good Samaritan Hospital last week, the nurses were worried about layoffs because of Medicaid. My doctor told me she will most likely be forced to cut down the amount of time she has with each patient because of the work load. My husband needs a knee transplant and went to see Dr Berger at Rush. He had left Medicare and only takes direct payment. Rough for most of us, fine for the wealthy. I saw on CBS a snippet from one of the wives of the men we lost on 9/11/12. She lost a son and felt very disrespected by our President. I couldn't find any more about that so I went to Fox and found that another mother got a form letter of sympathy from the White House. The president didn't even sign it himself. When our embassy was attacked the president went to Vegas. I can't wrap my head around that. I appreciate that this is an important time for politicking, but some things should take precedence over reelection speeches.
These things speak to President Obama's character.

The way Vice President Biden behaved in the debate was disrespectful in the extreme. None of my impressions come from Fox News or MSNBC or CNN. They come from my own impressions. I'm not proud of our president and that saddens me.

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BUTCH

8:46 am on Saturday, October 13, 2012

JOHN PAUL SHOULD WE CALL U II
So the spending bills can now originate in the Senate is this because the Tparty refuses to allocate any spending for America? what is shocking is Congress approval rating is over 5% despite all the bipartisanship and more lies from Ayn lyin!

BUTCH

3:56 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

Gloria TBAG what is really mind boggling the PROD'S and FUNDY Catholics have put the magic underwearer religion of the CAYMAN ISLANDS draft and tax dodger off limits,
OBAMA CARE has not asked any CATHOLIC HOSPITAL to perform abortions only give their employees (many are not papists) the very best health care, you pious wing nut hypocrites are focused on turning the clock back 40 years to a smaller government that keeps track of women's uteruses and accept the partner of the Red Army who imprisons CATHOLIC BISHOPS and professes their own version of PEKING CATHOLICISM the MACAU CANDIDATE implant man your candidate whose original investors murdered the ARCHBISHOP ROMERO and Maryknoll nuns of your religion .
Your version of the constitution includes honoring a pledge to a LOBBYIST who should have gone to jail with his partner JACK ABRAMOFF what college did u attend liberty U aka come to Jesus or U of blood letting, get your facts straight, how dare u tell any kid who gets knocked up by a rapist or TPARTY PREDATOR she has to carry the unwanted to full term !
This is only because the TPARTY scum have enough CANNON FODDER for the wars for DRUGS,AIPAC and HELLIBURTON!

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Gloria Palm

4:22 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

http://obamaphone.net/ (For those of you that said that obama did not have anything to do with the free phones.

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Baba Wawa

5:41 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

obamaphone.net? Really Gloria? It started in 1985 according to http://www.fcc.gov/lifeline
http://www.fcc.gov/guides/universal-service-support-mechanisms

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

It's also not directly subsidized by taxpayer monies: Who Pays for Universal Service?

All telecommunications service providers and certain other providers of telecommunications must contribute to the federal USF based on a percentage of their interstate and international end-user telecommunications revenues. These companies include wireline phone companies, wireless phone companies, paging service companies and certain Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) providers.

Some consumers may notice a “Universal Service” line item on their telephone bills. This line item appears when a company chooses to recover its USF contributions directly from its customers by billing them this charge. The FCC does not require this charge to be passed on to customers. Each company makes a business decision about whether and how to assess charges to recover its Universal Service costs. These charges usually appear as a percentage of the consumer’s phone bill. Companies that choose to collect Universal Service fees from their customers cannot collect an amount that exceeds their contribution to the USF. They also cannot collect any fees from a Lifeline program participant.

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Baba Wawa

5:48 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

Gloria, did you even read this on your "obamaphone.net" site? It really would be smart for you to read what's on the site you posted.

"The Lifeline program was actually created decades ago to help low income families have access to land lines. Over the years the cost of cell phones and cellular service has decreased and the program has been extended to cover cell phones.

During the Bush administration, there was the introduction of a project that gave subsidies to those who could not afford a phone."

And Gloria, this is from the link on your site:

This subsidized program is called Lifeline phones assistance program. But Obama hasn’t initiated it; it started few decades back and got its current format after going through several changes within this time. Safelink Wireless, the largest cellphone provider of the Lifeline program and a subsidiary of Tracfone, was created under the administration of George William Bush which received grants from a company that was launched during the Bill Clinton’s time and it was done because of an act passed by President Franklin Roosevelt which in turn was influenced because of an agreement between President Woodrow Wilson’s administration and some telecom service providers. So you can realize that this free cellphone service has a pretty long history and the claim about the Obama phone is nothing but a false rumor."

I like that last sentence, about it being a false rumor. Again, this is from a site YOU posted.

BUTCH

7:37 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

more on SARAH
We the voters are expected to BELIEVE AYN RYAN and TWIT that only ALEC and the KOCH bros who have yet filed in the details ot the budget of the family values and smug superiority deviate PARTY that has among it's members JIMMY SWAGGART, LARRY CRAIG,David KORESCH and TED HAGGARD and the greatest hypocrites of the log cabin TPARTY the GRANDPARENTS of the immaculate conception who USED A MALE HOOKER journalist -sperm donor.
The King and Queen of AIPAC &Helliburton were and continue To be THE most embarrassing VICE PRESIDENT and the looter in Chief of all time up to now that is, every time you think these creatures hit bottom they lower the bar and you are appalled at uncle Joe's dentures that is beyond pathetic.

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Chronicles of Bob

8:23 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

Absolutely pricless. Just saw that the ryan budget calls for a 331 miilion dollar cut to emabassay security. As they parade on blaming obmama for lack there of... the two letters written to biden by ryan requesting stimulas $$ for green jobs as they bash the stimulas and the freen jobs is just as amazing...
One thing to be Republican ... i absolutely respect that... but to defend these two because they are repubs is absurd ...

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John Paul

10:33 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

Maybe we couild have saved the $331M (much of which was reinstated by the Senate and signed by Obama) AND kept the people in Libya safe if we didn't spend so much on the French embassy security or on Valerie Jarrett's security detail at Marthas Vineyard.

BUTCH

7:47 am on Saturday, October 13, 2012

Where is the outrage ? When has Old Glory outside of a military or diplomatic mission in India or the Peoples Republic of China FLOWN over a commercial or business venture, for those illiterate TPARTY RED CHINA is COMMUNIST, India a democratic nation with millions of English speaking very low paying workers who are being utilized to the max by the progenitor of outsourcing of American jobs JACK WELCH a very rock star of the !% who has the stones to criticize our government's labor anything in this instance stat's on unemployment.
This scumbag has done everything humanoidly possible to eliminate the Middle class in the land of the free and now writes a editorial on MURDOCH the alien criminals WSJ and goes on the his fascist network to bash our city of CHICAGO all because the unemployment despite the 4 year effort to tank the economy by the TPARTY rat (as in Willard ) traitors has failed and the magic number not the one in TWIT'S underwear is below 8% the wise guys and traitors were beaten by the Black guy the Nazi Commie who wants to bring Socialism and endanger JACK'S PINK backside why should we tolerate chicken sh** Welch or any scum TPARTYERS advice on anything in jackoff's case his beloved TAJ MAHAL.

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BUTCH

8:00 am on Saturday, October 13, 2012

NOW Willard TWIT ROBEME is a special case he eerily resembles Robert Shaw of the Manchurian Candidate the scumbag said" he not OBAMA knows how to deal with CHINA" His top financial advisor not only is a ZIONIST but the PAIPAN HIMSELF the sole Vice lord in the COMMIE PARADISE, he is a partner of the RED ARMY offshore gas and oil drilling & exploration Corp currently doing their best for theirs and HELLIBRTON( another TPARTY criminal enterprise ) in Iran we also heard how THE WILLARD will deal with them and expect to hear more this week anyway in his SENATA auto sensor plant in BAINPORT -FREEPORT here in the LAND of LINCOLN the RED ARMY- MACAU and NATIONAL FLAG of BAIN is flying at full staff, i ALWAYS THOUGHT HE WAS A CAYMAN ISLANDER!

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BUTCH

9:07 am on Saturday, October 13, 2012

Dianna if it was on FOX it is as truthful as Willard's donations to charity he gives to the LDS and writes it off since he is a BISHOP he is donating to his magic underwear! I have had the same experience with some Dr's who do not to take MEDICARE and have relatives at Rush who are also top earners who wish to deal with only PPO it is in their dNA that they only have to deal with a small number of the 3% I have a theory on that!
As for the moms on Fox I believe they turned the Glenn DOUGHERTY story around
they and WILLARD'S partners are disinfo experts, he was a Seal Killed on 911 Willard told a fabricated story about he was a friend which was immediately discredited by Glenn's mom and best friend of Glenn, I think the other part of sending a form letter is probably correct DUBYA was renowned for it also,do you actually believe Willard has any character or is not a humanoid with a RED ARMY implant I am not the only one, Dougherty best friend said Dougherty told the story he introduced himself 4 times in 45 minutes and each time did not know he had done so earlier and had the most blank look in his eyes.

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Dianna

10:20 am on Saturday, October 13, 2012

Butch, thanks for your response. What I watched on FOX was the wife and mom of 2 fallen men speak of their experiences since the death of their sons. I don't think you are suggesting that the mom's went to Fox News and asked them to lie.
I believe the reason Fox News is so far ahead of the other outlets is because there is no other public conservative channel.
I wish that all of us here could speak to our own personal experiences as Kate did yesterday. Any one of us can cut and paste talking points. I have access to the very same outlets that liberals have, and I read them every day. What's fun to do is observe how both sides shade a story to suit their ideals. I can do that and so can you. I'd be much more interested on this site to learn more about the reasons you and others have the ideology you voice. Who are you? Why are you so interested in calling those who don't agree with you names? What has happened in your personal life that has made you so bitter? If I meet you on the street will we be able to look each other in the eye?

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BUTCH

12:50 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012

Di I am not calling anyone a name I am speaking what they have done and what their religion or cult says in the case of the LDS dogma.
I have a impossible time believing anything from MURDOCH and friends which is not as you or they claim a news network it is a entertainment outlet for right wing disinformation to say there is no other conservative channel depends on conservative, WGN the worlds greatest liberal or progressive does not sound right or ABC.
As for my personal experiences there is not enough space or blogs I am not saying any talking points I am simply retelling what and who the wingnuts are and say it may sound way out or talking points but it is all on the record,
Do u remember Dan Rather for ex who broke the story of BUSH 41 DESERTION from the TEX-ALA National Guard? He was immediately attacked by the wingnuts and traitors of the current TPARTY pilloried and fired from CBS or the MARINES electrocuted by FILIPINO fisherman hired as electricians by KBR Helliburton IN Iraq and the journalist on FOX that was a male hooker in his real job and a visitor to CHENEY'S OFFICE a dozen times according to the logs at the WH and BLAIR HOUSE and why HELLIBURTON WAS SERVICING THE MULLAHS IN IRAN all the way to 2006.

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BUTCH

1:04 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012

DI PART 2
I know even on FOX they WARN THE MURKAN stupids of the danger from Iran because they are the enemy of our gallant ISRAEL ALLY both CHENEY the VPOTUS his wife the HEAD of AIPAC the MOSSAD cover or the AMER-ISR-POL ACTION CMTE are regular contributors to the mis and disinformation OUTLET along with their daughter a DOD expert no less but not the one who is gay and the mother of a immaculate conception, the point is they create the illusion of the threat of the Mullahs to enrich their portfolio and would never threaten their KHARG ISLAND holdings on the Persian Gulf.
i COULD DO THIS ALL DAY but we have to talk about the RED ARMY FLYING their flag at BAINPORT and the ISRAELI-TAIPAN vice lord financing WILLARD TWIT ROBME'S campaign by the way they are also operating in IRAN which is not illegal if u are CHINESE and I thought WILLARD was a CAYMAN islander do u see why the other robot CHENEY had his infamous fund raiser in WYOMING for WILLARD!

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Tired of the B.S.

1:10 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012

BUTCH,
Since you know it all, I wonder if you know that one of Obama's biggest talking points is a lie? When Obama says that he ended the war in Iraq, he forget to mention that the plan to end that war was the plan put into place by Bush. Obama did not hasten the end of that war as he promised when he said that we would be out 16 months after he took office. In fact, if Obama would have gotten his way, we would have left about 30,000 troops in Iraq after the Dec. 31st 2011 deadline for all US troops to be out of Iraq, as Bush's plan called for.

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BUTCH

1:50 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012

BS U are correct, Obama kept GATES on as DOD to do that,
the BIG FIB was and is the war and reasons for it and the despicable act of outing a CIA agent by the VPOTUS chief staff and likely POTUS CHIEF KARL ROVE had BROUGHT THE SAME outrage from u looney tunes that flying the RED ARMY FLAG over the land of Lincoln the sound of SILENCE!
What if BIDENS errand boy had outed a LOW level bureaucrat for leaking false data ON unemployment numbers ? By the way ROVE'S SUPER PAC is from the same Mullahs that was selling and buying guns for drugs and part of the network made famous by the early Demetia POTUS operatives in the WH basement.

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Tired of the B.S.

2:36 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012

BUTCH
No, the big fib is Obama taking credit for ending a war when he had done nothing to end it.
The war was ended by policy put into place by the Bush administration before Obama was President.

BUTCH

2:00 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012

Di I was told by a conservative not wing nut friend the reason why some Dr are opting out of MEDICARE they cannot find enough intelligent or trained workers to master the codes this is a RIGHT WING talking point on reg's if the same Dr's would pay the help more than min wage it would be a start.
I remember they were doing a lot of this work off shore in Ireland but it seems they did not pay them there either and they left for Australia Canada and New Zealand.

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BUTCH

5:28 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012

BS what part of it was GATES the BUSH DOD who was in place and so what does that have to do with The RED ARMY FLYING THEIR commie flag over the LAND of LINCOLN that's yer talking point??
BUSH is also on record as saying 'i DON'T KNOW WHERE BIN LADEN IS and could care less" The only policy put in place by CHENEY and BUSH was in CHENEY'S OFFICE with the PIONEERS, RANGERS and the 7 sisters who the robot looter refused to tell, talk about or record with not a word from the so called LIBERAL MEDIA or the the other misinfo outlets nor the HILLBILLY HEROIN KING with no protest or any FOIA filing because they had insured the records were on a ash heap., CHENEY and friends plan according leaks were going to divy up the IRAQI oil fields but the KURDS of MOSUL and SHIA in BASRA had another policy in place that did not include EXXON BP Helliburton or MURPHY OIL!
NOW Mr outrage at OBAMA TAKING CREDIT where or where is the OIL DIVIDEND? and NO OUTRAGE on the RED ARMY here in the LAND of LINCOLN are u an investor in BAIN and HELLIBURTON OR JUST A SAP?

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Tired of the B.S.

12:30 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012

ivent, nancy grace, butch, stripes, or whatever you want to call yourself
What I said was that Obama is saying that he ended the war in Iraq. This is not true.
The last U.S. troops did leave Iraq in December 2011, while Barack Obama was president, but the “status of forces agreement” that governed the departure of U.S. troops was actually negotiated between Iraqi and U.S. officials in late 2008 under President Bush.
What that means is that means is that no matter who was President in December 2011, all of our troops would have come home.
So every time that Obama takes credit for "ending the war" it is not true. It was ended before he took office.
As for the rest of your convoluted ramble,....HUH?

BUTCH

5:42 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012

U ARE SO FULL of yerself and BS
whoever u want me to be I am as for your contribution which I agree with the BUSH SEC of DEF was kept on to do the job because he was the man that had to navigate thru the HELLIBURTON MINEFIELDS now back to the real issue of jobs and national sovereignty since u do not believe me about WILLARD the rat ROBME u can CALL l 815 232 4592 and get the facts on SENATA BAIN CAPITAL mfg plant at 2520 walnut St FREEPORT Illinois who were RECENTLY visited by our gallant allies FRENCH not CHINESE workers yesterday to bring attention to the WILLARD ROBME PLANS OF CREATING JOBS IN HIS RED ARMY HOMELAND and by the way why does BUSH get credit fir something that happened in 2008 and OBAMA gets blamed for the LYIN auto plant that closed in 2008, that is what is called convoluted?

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BUTCH

5:56 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012

BS as u know but the readers do not the RANGERS-PIONEERS are TEXASS and OKIE Oil men and FUNDY Christians who rob MEDICARE to contribute to THE BUSHEVIK CAMPAIGN in 00-04,
Seven sisters are the real deal OIL CORP who operated in SAUDI ARABIA whose KING the Bush family made pilgrimages to pay homage which included holding hands smooching etc
Robot man is CHENEY who has a tin heart like so many TPARTYERS
The HILLBILLY HEROIN KING is the T PARTY genius and GOP guru RUSH LIMBAUGH whose choice of recreation is OXYCOTIN he made in popular when arrested at the MIAMI AIRPORT coming back from a visit to the CAYMANS with WILLARD and SHELDON

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BUTCH

11:04 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012

Dianna another point on the closings and jobs when CLINTON was being blackmailed to sign NAFTA it did not have a immediate impact until BUSH 43 had opened the door to the masses of low wage LATINS and the hospitals and doctors started outsourcing the medical records to the educated people of MEXICO'S labor force but like all TPARTY efforts it failed because they wrote and returned them written in SPANISH so then the CELTIC TIGER was born if that needs elaboration let me know?

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Dianna

11:18 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012

Butch, I think you must have misread my post. What I am saying is all of your comments deal with things I can find for myself. I don't need the "facts" as someone else states them. I am asking about you personally. Clearly I can see your political stance, but what has happened in your life to make you so angry? You probably have a lot of good things to say, but your posts are too angry for many of us to follow. I'm not sure if you have a vision problem, or simply believe yelling is an appropriate way to get your message across. You are a puzzle, my friend.

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BUTCH

11:27 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012

The same traitors who outed a entire CIA NETWORK and called for the assassination of the person or persons who leaked the YELLOW CAKE -NIGER didinfo story are being employed by the ZIONIST NEO CON TAIPAN VICE LORD and SPIRITUAL advisor of the God of KOLUB.
It is the same cast that lied us into IRAQ and now are trying to lie us into believing we need to go to have a preventative strike against IRAN because the terrorist PM of the Terrorist state told us we need to stop IRAN from obtaining a BOMB they will never get , the best part of the fairy tale is this would knock out the both CHENEY'S and ROBEME RED ARMY'S stranglehold in IRAN and all that Oil for CHINA my friends!
It is the drum beat all over again and the scum Netanyahooo putting his scummy y hands and face into our Presidential election is convoluted but the TPARTY flag wavers and draft dodgers see nothing wrong in the conspiracy once more to loot 2TRILLION DOLLARS again.we still have a lot of money for the 1% to loot if not they would be all in the CAYMANS and JACK OFF WELCH would be in his beloved TAJ-MAHAL
GO to BAINPORT.COM my fellow Americans.

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BUTCH

1:13 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012

THIS IS SHOCKING THAT U ACCEPT THE MISINFO and DIS INFO as spinning and about my vision problem I was told I had cataracts and was treated for many years for GLAUCOMA but thanks to a real magic cure when I go to the Ophthalmologists for my semi annual he or she tell me the pressure is non existant and I may have to get treatments (laser) possibly later for the almost cataracts something like we have to attack Iran because they may??
What has happened in my life Doctor in my opinion goes back to the genocide that is a feature in a CT museum called the FAMINE and is the basis for the FIGHTIN IRISH mythology especially if one's ancestor were victimized if more than one it usually ends up in very passionate and times bombast.
my real disgust is usually NOT ALWAYS targeted at flippers and outright liars whose slips at the wrong time and carefully worded retractions are to get the best from all the devils and angels, but this hypocrisy, insulting condescending creature is SHAMELESS and not just misleading to paper over and put cover on issues which are never covered or talked about on these hot button blogs like ROBME'S time as governor was an insult to the Dem;s and people of MASS as bad as his entire MYTH ROBME tax plan for the middle class, I am a puzzle? WILLARD IS A ENIGMA in a puzzle that transforms as the esosketch is shaken to bi partisan or wing nut depending on the audience

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BUTCH

1:21 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012

Dianna #2 ,IN my view we elect these scoundrels because MURKANS aka TPARTY believe somewhat correctly that most of the know nada and low info MURKANS have a short memory span and are willing to go the privatization of SSA and all the other hokey TPARTY looting nonsense every 2 and 4 years, my rants and bombast don't really mean a thing to anyone who does not want to watch what he says on TUESDAY and read what he takes back on Wed, the TPARTY COMRADES know the majority of their MORONS have turned off their debate and info or propaganda TV for STORAGE WARS or the soap channel, I have no illusions on Obama protecting SSA and or MEDICARE he offered it up but the nitwits were too stupid to realize their pledge to the TRAITOR NORDQUIST would have destroyed the system eventually not right away because they are told the SUPREME CT Justices is the prize and the RED ARMY ADVISORS, ROVE SANITORIUM and the rest of them know what this ELECTION IS REALLY ALL ABOUT

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BUTCH

6:48 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012

another gem on " those people" getting food stamps IT SEEMS the only benefits besides not starving goes to the TWO BUSHEVIK POTUS and the 10 retired General;of the MILITARY throw in a few COLONELS who organized a TPARTY in TEXASS called Private Charter Corp , HOUSTON for free cell phones and AUSTIN \for LINK changing from paper to electronic, THIS is the arbitrage or looting the taxpayers getting pieces of silver or skim their FOREIGN partner is BARON MAURICE DAVID ROTHSCHILD the French branch of the infamous family his daddy is from the weather channel and the weather changing apparatus that is absurd and scoffed at convoluted ramble.
U all could find this for yourselves if u wanted to as could the less than brilliant SCIENTIST by his own DESIGN the TPARTY NITWIT JIM INHOFE a stooge for the OKIE OIL interests as well as EXXON.
If the Tparty is interested in stopping corruption return the STAMP program to paper and starve ha ha the parent Corp (power elite Inc) IMAGINE the more the true believers in VOO DOO believe the poorer they get and richer the POWER ELITE GET the question is will WILLARD have his own version of food stamps?

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BUTCH

6:53 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012

Time to end the education on the patch for the evening do not forget to SUPPORT our brave AMERICANS at BAINPORT.COM 815-232-4592

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